It's no longer Law & Order: Criminal Intent. It's just another cop show, which should have been a spin-off for Jeff Goldblum. To call it LOCI is criminal. And yes, I'm still harping on it because I'm THAT UPSET STILL.
So, let's recap here. No more Goren, Eames or Ross. Not even Wheeler will be returning. So we have the newest character, Nichols, introduced last year for eight- count them - whole episodes. We have a new female partner and a new female captain. Saffron Burrows (no offense personally to the actress as I do not know her and I'm sure she's just taking a job and has no idea of all the bullshit connected with it) steps into Julianne Nicholson's place as the newest nubile young woman to partner with the male lead detective (at least she's not a redhead). No idea what her name will be, don't care. She's a thirty-something actress so I guess they're looking for younger than Erbe who is now in her forties.
For captain, they needed maturity so they got Mary Elizabeth Mastriantonio (Sp?) who I last remember as a swordfish boat captain in The Perfect Storm (an excellent movie, IMO). Guess they wanted more women for whatever reason. Maybe they didn't like the way Ross and Nichols tended to clash a bit since Nichols pulls Gorenesque stunts and now we know why Ross kept telling Eames not to let her partner take her down with him because he sees Eames as his counterpart and Goren as Nichols from his own experience.
So what are they going for I wonder? Whatever it is, they really should have just ended LOCI and Wolf could have called this L&O: something else that's not LOCI. It's an insult to the collective intelligence of LOCI fans and especially to VDO fans.
Now, I happen to really like Jeff Goldblum. He's kind of an odd duck as a human being and he's rather endearing in most of his movies. I like odd ducks.
I loved Mary Elizabeth Mastriantonio in The Perfect Storm and The Abyss. Apparently she was Maid Marion in some Robin Hood movie, though which one escapes me as I think it may have been from the one that had that awful song by Bryan Adams, which marked the beginning of his power ballad phase and it made me want to puke. But that's what people are laughing at her for so I am assuming that was it. Oh well, one bad movie does not a career kill, IMO.
Saffron Burrows I have no clue about. I recall she was on Boston Legal as an Alan Shore love interest but apparently she wasn't memorable enough for me to remember. Again, nothing against her as I don't know much about her and she's just taking a job along with the other two.
Despite all this, I'm just so disappointed that they are reinventing the show and keeping the name in the hopes that the name of the show can attract an audience. And I hate the way they treated the departing actors. It's especially disturbing the way Kathryn Erbe was treated from the news that has been leaking out on the situation.
All of it is enough to make me hate the show. I'm not watching the season premiere. I feel sorry for the actors taking over as really, they're not at any fault here. An acting job is an acting job and if it wasn't going to be any of them, it would have been someone else. However they seem to be sharing in the animosity and it's too bad. All that hate should be directed at the network and Dick Wolf.
Let's certainly not forget Dick Wolf. A man who thinks actors and characters are expendable because he seems to view all his shows as the same thing and that is so not true. Maybe the mothership can lose characters left and right, but SVU and LOCI are more character driven. Especially LOCI. SVU has a larger base of characters so maybe it could survive the departure of either Stabler or Benson, but LOCI had Goren and Eames all the way through. That's it.
Now, not only do we not have our main reasons for watching the show, we don't even have any of the peripheral characters like an ADA Carver or a Captain Ross who has more history with the show than Detective Nichols. WTF???
This show is so dead. It annoys me that USA and Wolf Productions have the nerve to call it LOCI. Cancellation would have been painful but understandable. In one of my letters to USA, I did tell them if they couldn't afford the show, they shouldn't have renewed it. I'd rather see it canceled outright than bastardized into something unrecognizable.
So if I don't learn for sure who dies in the finale (and yes, despite the fact that it's called the season premiere, it really is the finale) before hand, someone who watches it needs to tell me. I won't watch them kill off Eames. It would break my heart just like it broke my heart to see Frank Pembleton have to arrest Tim Baylis for murder in the finale of Homicide: Life on the Streets. In my mind it never happened. Lt. Giardello didn't die in my mind either.
And just like Homicide ended for me with the departure of Frank Pembleton, LOCI will end with Goren being 'set free' by his insane mentor, Declan Gage, with Ladies Man as an epilogue to show us Detective Goren almost recovered and back to his old self. I'm really good at watching tapes and DVDs of my favorite shows without watching the bad parts.
Okay, hopefully this will be the end of the rant. It's just difficult when I see things to remind me of the change and sets off another round of ranting and raving and an incredible feeling of disgust through me. Just when I think I'm in full acceptance, another little news item hits and it reminds me of just how much I will miss this show.
Last week at work a co-worker mentioned Burn Notice - a show we both like - and I mentioned I wouldn't be watching. He asked why and I told him. Also told him not to get attached to the show because once it's been on long enough, if the actors cost too much they're going to dump them and bring in new ones. He was surprised they would even keep the title LOCI since - and he doesn't really watch the show - it seemed to be about that 'big guy detective.' lol He only sees promos and maybe watched an episode or two and even he knows what LOCI has always been about.
So, who is going to end up watching LOCI? Well, I don't know. I bet the season premiere will get big numbers because it's the departure of Goren and Eames. But after that if even casual viewers think the show is supposed to be about Goren, I bet they won't stick around for long either.
[NP: Foo Fighters - DOA]
Monday, November 2, 2009
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Over here on Hallmark TV where they are showing season 8 they already make a distinction between Goren and Nichols episodes. They call the goren ones "classic LOCI" and they call the Nichols ones "LOCI".
So clearly they already knew Goren was past tense!
I think its to do with male prowess. Wolf has to prove that the show survives its characters and is more important, therefore HE is more important.The show must go on at all costs,the system is more important than the individual, and making money is more important than anything else.
The fans may think they are important but they are not.The show simply mutates to find another audience.He is a business man and we are just consumers in a capitalist ideal.Who cares who we are so long as the money is coming in.
Well, maybe Goldblum fans will start watching or something. I don't think he brought on any more people when he arrived. Like the ratings didn't burst through the roof or anything I don't think.
And again, I hate sounding like one of the Goldblum bashers because I'm not. It's just difficult to NOT be resentful of the changes under the name LOCI.
And you're right, Janet. It's always been about power and money since the beginning of television. But, it just seems more ramped up these days. Shows like Hill Street Blues, St. Elsewhere and even comedy hits like Cheers and Seinfeld would never have survived in today's market.
I find the only quality around any more is on cable. A&E's Mad Men seems like a good indication of where scripted dramas can thrive. I need to watch the show from the beginning so after we finish with Oz, my husband and I plan to watch the first two seasons already on DVD.
Speaking of which, WTH is with Wolf not putting out LOCI on DVD in a more timely fashion??? Oh wait, he wants us to continue watching the reruns on BRAVO and USA I suppose. Asshole doesn't even begin to describe it.
This is the best write up I have read about this pathetic turn of events. I can not make up my mind about which aspect of this scenario disgusts me the most : Wolf's view of actors as interchangeable, NBC's self destructive tactics or USA's shallowness.
If USA wants the show to be lighter why did they cast the 2 females they selected for Nichols partner and Captain. I think both are good actresses but I have never seen them in any show where they showed any flair for comedy or lighter fare at all. Saffron Burrows usually plays cool and sophisticated characters who are very distant and serious. Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio usually plays very serious characters who mostly react to other leading characters in serious situations. Kathryn Erbe and Julianne Nicholson are Lucille Ball and Carol Burnett compared to Saffron Burrows and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio. If I were Jeff Goldblum, I would be begging for the return of Eric Bogosian to keep me awake. Where they asked Vincent D'Onofrio if he was bored, they will have to first wake up Jeff Goldblum to ask him if he is bored. So uninspiring. Vincent D'Onofrio and Kathryn Erbe were lucky to always have each other for 8 seasons and to have had Jamey Sheridan, Courtney B. Vance and Eric Bogosian as co-stars.
This is why I have taken to watching TV shows on DVD long after they've entered syndication land. That way, 1) I know there's nothing I can do to change things because they're long since over (not that I could change them if they were in progress, but you get what I mean...)... 2) No waiting through To Be Continued episodes, or missing storyarc elements, or summer hiatus, or commercials... 3) I know the outcome before I begin.
So, the most torture I endure these days is the fact that JAG season 9 isn't out for seven more days, and 10 hasn't been announced yet. But either way, I know who rides off in the sunset together.
And then in the case of poor endings, I can pretend they never happened. Like not taking season 9 of the X Files out of the shrink wrap.
And...there's always fanfiction to fill in the gaps and thwarted hopes and dreams.
Oh, and to play devil's advocate for a brief moment... Wolf likely has no control over the DVD release dates... there's a plethora of variables that go into that process. For example, the drew carey show lost it's distributor after releasing the first season; crossing jordan is having issues with releases because apparently they didn't jump through the proper copyright hoops with musicians when the episodes first aired... and then sometimes there are issues with reformatting... and then if they add any bonus stuff, they have to get it from the archives, assemble it.. or interview people or let people do audio commentaries or...
I guess maybe I'm just used to waiting... that and working at a video store for two years, you get used to explaining the process to people.
I can't decide if I'm going to watch the exit epi or not. I feel if I do I'm going to have to go in believing it's just a visual fan fic, because I'm with you -- the series ended with "Frame." I can't say I was a huge fan of season seven, but it was better than this slop and still had writers that actually seemed invested in the series and characters, and actually cared about them.
And I also like Goldblum, but I just feel Nichols is an obvious attempt to extend the "formula" of Goren and potentially Goren and Eames as a set. Not his fault at all. This is worse than when Wolf and Co. changed the format of NY Undercover, which was like L&O meets Miami Vice meets mid nineties Hip-hop culture. It only lasted another season after the cast and format changes (and that was with one original star).
Thanks for the info on the process of shows going to DVD, tate. I just assumed it was Dick Wolf being a DICK.
hey lynnez, you could treat Frame as the Goren Finale, and just consider the two parter of season 9 to be a feature length episode all on its own.
Any potential re-appearance after that is only about ratings or money which is a bit of an insult to fans, so no need to bother watching any further!
Im moaning again I know, but I just cant believe how awful the writing is for Season 8.Nothing flows, no continuity,nothing memorable.Its all repetition "cut and paste" jobs...with lots of references back to episodes from season 6/7...as if they revised their homework from that period.
The result is regurgitation,no energy.Its been more a chore than a pleasure watching them.
I havent seen Ladys Man yet. Maybe it will surprise me.
So I join with everyone here who wont buy the dvd for seasons8/9...if it ever gets released! I doubt there will be any market for it.
Yeah, season 8 was horrible. Ladies Man is far from perfect but at least it shows us Goren in recovery. I like that. Also like the way he looks out for Eames and how she's the one emotionally vested this time instead of him.
But I don't know about season 8 as VDO is in it and many of us would buy it just because of that. But definitely season 9 will be a throw away.
Hey Janet,
"Ladies Man" is not really any better writing wise IMO, but there are cannonical elements regarding Eames that are hard to just dismiss. Plus it's the one episode where Goren doesn't seem to be sleep walking through the whole episode -- he's funny and vibrant and engaged with Eames and the case. Don't get me wrong here I think VDO is a great actor, but I also think it was very obvious that he was bored out of his skull during season 8 and I can't really blame him.
Sorry, I wanted to add, that even though the case file in Ladies Man is completely convulated and makes no sense to me still...it is the only episode in eight that indicates that the new writers may have actually, you know, WATCHED the previous seasons.
I guess I will be hitting the blogs to see who it is that dies because I won't be watching.
I read everything I could on Bonnie Hammer in the past few weeks, and I am going to say her need to make masculine men into quirky and non-threatening would be the reason for a woman captain. I shouldn't say this out loud, but I did watch one episode of White Collar - the males leads are cute - they have their little bromance going, and the females came across as stronger. It was a cute little show. Cute. That's what its all about I think...SyFy was one of her ideas. SciFi was too manly but SyFy is...cute.
Seems our show was killed because of lack of cuteness.
Charley
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